Dear Rusty: I’m 63 and retired from work, but not drawing Social Security. I have accumulated just over $300,000 in my rollover 401(k) IRA. My wife is still working full time, so we have medical, dental, and vision coverage. I have a few questions: 1) When I take IRA distributions throughout the year, do those dollar […]
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Dear Rusty: I’m 63 and retired from work, but not drawing Social Security. I have accumulated just over $300,000 in my rollover 401(k) IRA. My wife is still working full time, so we have medical, dental, and vision coverage. I have a few questions:
1) When I take IRA distributions throughout the year, do those dollar amounts get reported to the Social Security Administration as income?
2) If not, will my Social Security benefit change (will I be penalized?) for not working and having zero income as I continue to withdraw investments and show no income?
3) If my benefit will drop because of the last few years of no income, would it be advisable to start drawing Social Security now?
Signed: Planning Ahead
Dear Planning Ahead: Whenever you decide to claim Social Security, the agency will compute your benefit amount from your lifetime earnings history. It will adjust your earnings for inflation in all years prior to the year you turned 60, finding the 35 years in which you had the highest (inflation-adjusted) earnings, and use that “average indexed monthly earnings” (AIME) amount to determine your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is your benefit entitlement at your full retirement age (FRA). From there, your age when you claim determines your final Social Security payment amount. Born in 1958, your FRA is 66 plus 8 months, and that is the age at which you will get 100 percent of your PIA. If you claim benefits before your FRA, your payment will be reduced; and if you wait until after your FRA to claim your benefit will be increased. If you wait until you are 70 to claim, your Social Security payment will reach maximum (about 27 percent more than your FRA benefit amount). Now, to your specific questions:
1) Distributions taken from your 401(k) or IRA are not reported to Social Security as “earnings” and do not count toward your Social Security benefit entitlement.
2) If you have already retired from working, having zero earnings now won’t further affect your final Social Security payment amount because your benefit will be based upon your 35 highest-earning years. However, if you have a recent benefit estimate from Social Security, that estimate assumed that you would continue to earn at the same level you most recently reported to the IRS until you reached your FRA. So, if you got the estimate while you were still working (or shortly thereafter), the estimate is higher than your actual benefit will be. If you received the estimate a year or more after you stopped working, the estimate is more accurate. In any case, your 401(k) withdrawals will not count as Social Security earnings.
3) Claiming now would result in a permanently reduced Social Security benefit amount because you haven’t yet reached your full retirement age. But claiming now wouldn’t be a hedge against your current lack of earnings because your benefit will be based upon the highest earning 35 years over your lifetime.
If you don’t already have a full 35 years of Social Security-covered earnings the agency will still use 35 years in the benefit calculation, adding $0 earnings for enough years to make it 35. If that is the case, you could offset some of those zero years in your lifetime history by returning to work now, thus increasing your benefit when you claim. If you already have at least 35 years of earnings, enjoy your retirement.
One last thing to consider: if you predecease your wife, at her FRA, she will be entitled to 100 percent of the benefit you were receiving at your death (if that is more than her own). In other words, when you claim your benefit will affect the amount your wife can get as your widow. The longer you wait to claim, the higher your wife’s survivor benefit from you will be.
Russell Gloor is a certified Social Security advisor with the Association of Mature American Citizens (AMAC). The 2.3 million member AMAC says it is a senior-advocacy organization. Send your questions to: SSadvisor@amacfoundation.org.
Author note: This article is intended for information purposes only and does not represent legal or financial guidance. It presents the opinions and interpretations of the AMAC Foundation’s staff, trained and accredited by the National Social Security Association (NSSA). The NSSA and the AMAC Foundation and its staff are not affiliated with or endorsed by the Social Security Administration or any other governmental entity.